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            <opener><dateline> <date when="1941-10-02">Oct. 2, 1941.<lb/> 270 <rs ref="#tillich_place_id__319" type="place">Riverside<!-- vermutlich New York? --></rs></date></dateline>
               <salute>Dear <rs ref="#tillich_person_id__1928" type="person">Tillich</rs>,</salute>
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            <p><rs ref="#tillich_person_id__3762" type="person">Lovejoy</rs> writes me that he "sees
               no contradiction whatever" in the idea of a being that is omniscient as to past
               details but not as to future details (the future being held not to contain details,
               so long as it is future). What <rs ref="#tillich_person_id__3762" type="person">L.</rs> was objecting to was <rs ref="#tillich_person_id__193" type="person">Bergson</rs>s notion that the past and presence mutually <q>interpenetrate</q>,
               and yet change is real. I have always held this a blunder on <rs ref="#tillich_person_id__193" type="person">Bergson</rs>s part. Past events are
               internal to present events but not vice-versa, the interpenetration is not mutual and
               so not properly speaking interpenetration. <rs ref="#tillich_person_id__3762" type="person">Lovejoy</rs> also holds that a changeless being must know the future
               as completely and in detail as it knows the past. To this I agree. However, I hold
               that nothing changes in God except his potentialities. His actual contents are
               indestructible, once actualized. Actuality is immutable in God, but reality as
               inclusive of actual and potential, is mutable, for the one element is ever passing
               into the other with an irreversible process.</p>
            <p>Your challenging question, how so many philosophers and theologians came to hold the same (according to me erroneous) view is not easy to answer. But the causes of
            belief are rather complex. For example:
            </p>
            <p>1) It is <hi rend="underline">simpler</hi> to say, absolute, than to say, absolute in one aspect, relative in another, and to indicate which aspects are which.
            </p>
            <p>2) Relativity and change and complexity <hi rend="underline">as we human beings have
                  them</hi> are obviously defective and full of risks and evils. To make sure that
               at least God (and we by identification with him, vicariously) escape<del rend="s">s</del> these defects, what more natural than to say he is simply without change,
               relativity, complexity? Escapism is one of the strongest of all motivations in
               philosophy. Moreover, the <hi rend="underline">kind</hi> of relativity and change and
               composition that is in the creatures is <hi rend="underline">really</hi> inapplicable
               to God. That a superior kind is possible is easily overlooked.</p>
            <p>3) The Bible says repeatedly and expressly that God does not change. True we today
               can see that this was probably not meant as a totaly metaphysical denial of every
               kind of change; but what more natural than that earlier theologians should have taken
               the <del rend="s"><unclear>???</unclear></del> denial in the unqualified sense?</p>
            <p>4) Authority of predecessors was strong after <rs ref="#tillich_person_id__1510" type="person">Plato</rs> and still more after <rs ref="#tillich_person_id__100" type="person">Augustine.</rs> It was easily overlooked that the great Greeks did
               not exhaust the possibilities for philosophy or anything like exhaust it. Then
               churchly authority came to strengthen the dogmatism and traditionalism natural to
               learning in a time of cultural decay.</p>
            <p>5) In <rs ref="#tillich_place_id__772" type="place">India</rs> the main trend was
               monistic, it is true, but pluralism, including a vaguely temporal view of the
               absolute being, was early and fairly strongly represented. It is still to be found. A
               leading Hindu<!-- wahrscheinlich Sri Aurobindo --> writer on mysticism says God is
               ethically complete and aesthetically growing, which of course, is my view.</p>
            <p>6) When there is a danger of social chaos it is easy to think unity an absolute
               value, with diversity neutral or evil.</p>
            <p>These are some of the possible explanations. <pb n="2"/> I forgot that the bible says
               God is perfect (<rs ref="#tillich_person_id__3763" type="person">Thomas</rs> quotes
               this); and again what more natural than to suppose that no qualification is called
               for? To be sure I hold too that God is perfect even in this relative and changing
               aspect, if by <q>perfect</q> is meant, without any lack <del rend="s"><unclear>???</unclear></del> when viewed in comparison with any being not
               God., Thus God is that than whom no greater being can be thought, <del rend="s"><unclear>???</unclear></del> meaning by <q>greater</q> <hi rend="underline">a
                  being, not God, but greater than God.</hi> Only God can (in this relative aspect)
               be greater than God.</p>
            <p>Is this view self-contradictory<add place="intralinear"><hi rend="hand">?</hi></add>.
               Well, I only await any indication as to where the contradictions lie. They must be
               shown to follow from the concepts which this view proposes in the definitions given,
               not from concepts which this view rejects. <del rend="s"><unclear>???</unclear></del></p>
            <p>That a being can never be equalled by any being individually distinguished from it
               does not seem to imply that the being can never be surpassed by itself. Merely
               juggling undefined words <del rend="s"><unclear>???</unclear></del> like absolute and
               relative proves nothing, even if our friend <rs ref="#tillich_person_id__1099" type="person"> Kroner</rs> does the juggling. My definitions do not yield any
               contradictions so far as has been shown. That a being which is absolute in <hi rend="underline">any</hi> aspect must be so in <hi rend="underline">all</hi>
               aspects may follow from some definition of absolute but not from this, that it means,
                  <q>to be absolute in a given respect is to be incapable of being excelled or
                  surpassed in that respect, even of being self-excelled.</q></p>
            <p>The problem of an infinity of past events is the paradox that I feel the most. But I am not sure that a beginning of time, or a first event, is inconsistent with the view
            proposed.  Before the first event there would not be anything, not even nothing, but there simply would be no <q>before.</q> I don't like this, but I am not yet clear that it is
            impossible. And I also am not clear that an actually infinite memory is impossible. I hope to get help from <rs ref="#tillich_person_id__3764" type="person">Schrecker</rs><!-- Vermutlich Paul Schrecker --> and 
            <rs ref="#" type="person">Kaufmann</rs><!-- unklar wer gemeint ist, vielleicht Walter Kaufmann (damals 20 jahre alt und Philosopiestudent in Harvard nach Emigration aus Deutschland -->
            here.</p>
            <p>As I presume you know my recent book, Man's Wisdom of God, discusses these things.</p>
            <p>I do not see any greater difficulty in an event before which is not anything with a
               changing than with a wholly unchanging God. For we still cannot say that before time
               began there was God. There is no such before. True, we can give a cause of the first
               event, the eternal God, but on my view the first event would not be an effect of
               anything beyond itself but would be a state of God without cause or
                  self-existent<add place="superlinear"><hi rend="hand">*</hi></add>. I don't like it but is it self-contradictory? And if it
               is, is the alternative of an infinity of remembered events self-contradictory.</p>
            <p>Well, one can't finish this subject in a letter!</p>
            <p><add place="superlinear"><hi rend="hand">*</hi></add> The first state of the world on
               the usual view has no <q>cause</q> in the ordinary sense of an antecedent event or finite
               state. On any doctrine a first state is paradoxical in that it lacks a basic trait of
               all other states of arising out of an earlier. <hi rend="hand"><unclear>That's why I
                     don't like it</unclear></hi></p>
            <p><hi rend="hand">I <unclear>need</unclear> hardly say that we enjoyed your
                  hospitality.</hi></p>
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               <salute><hi rend="hand">Sincerely,</hi></salute>
               <signed><rs ref="#tillich_person_id__817" type="person">Charles Hartshorne</rs></signed>
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                     <p>Richard Kroner (8. März 1884 – 2. November 1974) war ein in Breslau geborener deutscher Philosoph und Theologe, der der südwestdeutschen Schule des Neukantianismus nahestand. Mit seinem zweibändigen Hauptwerk Von Kant bis Hegel leistete er einen wesentlichen Beitrag zur Wiederentdeckung und Neubewertung des Deutschen Idealismus im 20. Jahrhundert. Nach der Emigration in die Vereinigten Staaten wirkte er als Vermittler zwischen kontinentaler und angelsächsischer Philosophie und zählt zu den bedeutenden Vertretern des Neuhegelianismus.</p>
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                     <date>1962-12-30</date>
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